Originally Posted by icabrindus I didn't understand your message until I quoted it to answer, and even now I'm not sure what you want to do. Do you have a bricked MG35, i.e. One which doesn't boot? If so, the serial link can be your only chance.
See. link removed. But if the device boots OK, you don't need the serial cable to upgrade the firmware. You can do it over the network/hdd, using the MG35 TV interface as described at. link removed. in the 'Flashing using the GUI' chapter. At first sorry for my bad english!!!
At second my device boots NOT ok. The blue led is flasing (bricked) my question is, the only way to fix it is the first link you give me?? (by flasing with a serial cable with a max232 device for the power issue ) or is it posible with tftp?? Who in holland (netherlands) can help me with this?
Originally Posted by gans thnx!!! But can someone in holland help me to do this?
(flasing a rom in to a broken MG-35 with a serial (with max 232 ic) cable? I get the point to the connection with the mediagate to the PC and de max 232 cable but how and where tot select a file to transmit to the mg-35?? I assume you have connected and have got into the serial console using the password 'MediaGate.'
On the MG-35 type download serial romfs On the PC (hyperterminal?) select send file via ymodem and then choose the romfs.m35 file (download from mediagate wiki) After the file is downloaded, type flash romfs Ian. Originally Posted by gans at first sorry for my bad english!!! At second my device boots NOT ok. The blue led is flasing (bricked) my question is, the only way to fix it is the first link you give me?? (by flasing with a serial cable with a max232 device for the power issue ) or is it posible with tftp?? Who in holland (netherlands) can help me with this? Ah, sorry, my message crossed yours.
By far the cheapest and easiest approach is to buy yourself a serial cable. Failing that, and if you don't find anyone in the Netherlands, you can send the box to me and I'll debrick it. But a serial cable is cheaper than the carriage! Originally Posted by meme1labs What can AL Tech do for you? Hey there gents - I spend a lot of time with ALTech and Mr. I'm not yanking your chain. Some weeks its almost nightly.
And I think I've got a strong handle on all the HDD based players and those running Sigma ever - and I can tell you I think which companies did their own stack and which took Sigma straight. Let me ask what would be the perfect relationship within the bounds of all things legal, helpful, ethical and not to time consuming on ALTech's part? What would you like to see the MG-35 do? Surf the web?
Stream from the web? And then the next one coming? Hell go for it - might as well ask - toss your ideas in. Be as aggressive here as on the working use of the code, etc. Also, the MG-350 rocks - wifi's nice, but the extra ram makes GUI 3x prettier - time search is 'I swear' instant - thats 8621 - and there's a 8622L thats right out there around the corner. Please write it all here - unless it absolutely requires a private email - it's hard to dig thru junk file use a subject like MG-35. Hope I can be helpful - JY's a great guy - I swear the issue isn't so much cultural - it's that Asia has a different Interweb thing than us - he was startled when I showed him a smaller forum.
View and Download AL Tech MediaGate MG-350HD user manual online. Audio Output Multi I/O Working Temperature Working Humidity MediaGate MG-350 HD 5V 1.5A /12V 1.5A. Mediagate MG-35 wireless connection. Archive View Return to standard view. Last updated –. The instruction manual that came with mine was obviously written for idiots and I had mine set up in about 5 minutes. The MG350HD is just an MG35 with a 350 GB HDD preinstalled, but you can stick your own drive in there (as easy as putting a drive in.
This one woul knock him over. Be Safe, Morgan Warstler Morgan, Speaking for myself, (and probably many others) we would love for AlTech to properly comply with the terms of the GPL. From what we now know, the source code provided to us thus far is woefully incomplete. Major parts of it are missing and it does not compile. We can see that GPL copyright strings in nearly everything we check in the compiled objects in the MG-35.
These include dvdplayer.bin, the boot loader, the upgrader, and even the loadable modules used to access the sigma hardware. Complete source for these should have been included in order to comply with the GPL. We are not asking for much of AlTech's time, at least no more time than to create a complete and valid GPL compliant distribution of the source code for the MG-35. From browsing this thread you can see there are a great number of people who will volunteer their time to make the product better and more user friendly.
Yes, we are struggling to understand the hardware and software at times, but we are making very steady and impressive progress. Our goal is to make the MG-35 even better and more user friendly than it is today and to fix all the annoying bugs and flaws. We are, as a group, the best partners you could ask for in the software development world. Not only will we beta-test and provide nearly immediate feedback, we have the collective skills to suggest and develop corrections.
We're free) If we are able to start with the correct and complete source code for the MG-35 Altech will be able to easily incorporate any features and fixes developed by this volunteer team. As it is today, without correct source, if we make our own tools and fixes, using alternate source code as a starting point, Altech would need much more time to leverage any improvements. It will not be as simple for them as applying a patch file and typing 'make'. Now, all of this volunteer effort can also occur on the MG-350, and it will, if correct and complete GPL source for it is supplied as mandated by the GPL copyright. Many of us will purchase the MG-350, or the MG-450 (or whatever the successor is named) if we think it is the best in class of the media players available. You ask how the media player can be improved.
That is easy, but the answer depends on the audience. For my family, an easy to use interface. If they've navigated to a folder on my media server do NOT force them to follow the full path to the media files again just because they decide to play an MP3 instead of a video. I can't tell you how many times I've navigated to a folder only to find it empty because I'm in 'Movie' mode instead of 'Music' mode. Showing a 'cover-art' JPG when browsing a similarly named ISO file would be a major improvement. It is done for pictures, it is high on my wishlist.
SDTV's make terrible web-browsers, not sure if HDTVs would be any better. I'd put that low on the priority list. Playing web-cast broadcasts would be high on the list, so would MP3 style playlists for music. A WiFi interface is nice, but unless major improvements are made, it is far too slow for many types of media. (I've tried a 802.11G adaptor on my MG-35. It barely works on a few ISO images, and only on those with low bit-rates) There are many small items to fix, but they would make the unit so much easier to use.
There is no need to re-scan the LAN network every time we change modes to learn of shared folders. Once is enough when the unit is powered on.
There is no real need for 'modes' for that matter. The file 'suffix' is sufficient to know how to play it, or render it. That's how ms-windows does it. Will most of us purchase an MG-350 or its successor? Well, perhaps. If we feel it is best in class when we go shopping as we upgrade our equipment to handle high-definition media. As it is today, I have two MG-35's, both on standard definition TVs.
The MG-350 would be overkill. I will eventually purchase a MG-350/successor for my home-theater if AlTech complies with the GPL as my theater has a HDTV projector. Currently I use a home-theater PC, but if the MG-350/successor could be made friendly enough, it would be really great. Imagine, all the TVs in my house would then have a similar user-friendly media-player interface. My wife would be very happy as she would be able to play almost anything in our media collection anywhere in our home and not have to do it differently on different media players. I understand the new sigma chipset will be able to handle more media types, and be able to seek faster, and display a fancier 3D user-interface, but those chipset features don't fix a poorly designed user interface.
Look at what has been done so far on the MG-35. Take a few minutes to view the sample screen shots of the unofficial 'upgrade' developed by people contributing to this thread. Take a few minutes to see how the MG-35/350/successor could easily be the best in class and leave the competition far behind. Hell, get your hands on an MG-35 and install one of the 'unofficial upgrades' and then show it to JY.
If he is impressed with a small user-forum, imagine how impressed he might be with seeing how much his current product might be over his competitors given a chance. With correct and complete GPL source, the competition will be left far behind.
Eventually, all of us will upgrade our media players. If an AlTech's competitors' product is better when we upgrade our equipment, or more friendly, or correctly complies with the GPL so that 'unofficially',with the improvements contributed by the user community their product ends up best in class, then AlTech's market share will shrink. We'll buy the competing product and end up helping the competitor make their product better. Alternatively, if AlTech's products have the features we want and need, and they make it easy for us to help keep them the best in class by supplying the complete and correct GPL source for the product, they will be the ones everyone will buy when they upgrade. Originally Posted by teddystacker @Morgan, Many thanks for your post, if you check you pm here,I have sent you a nice long message entitled:- What.WE.
can do for Mr Kim At Al Tech. Look forward to your answer and really hoping we can work with Mr Kim (Whoever he is,and if he is indeeed involved directly with Al Tech).
Regards Teddy Teddy, A quick search of using the terms 'JY Kim' altech on google will show that Mr JY Kim is the president of AlTech. He might be 'directly' involved, and probably somebody we would love to work with. Originally Posted by J. Teddy, A quick search of using the terms 'JY Kim' altech on google will show that Mr JY Kim is the president of AlTech. He might be 'directly' involved, and probably somebody we would love to work with. Yep,you just beat me to it - aint Google just the best/worst tool out there:-) And if Morgan is the LoadTV guy, it explains his interest in the MG-35 line ie 'tieing up' any streaming media content that the MG-35 may one day be capable of doing. All interesting stuff that each of us knew nothing about 2 months ago:-).
Hi All, I'm looking at ths MG-35 and have been reading as much of this (very long) thread as possible. I'm trying to find out if the MG-35 will follow windows shortcuts when navigating network shares. I would use the MG-35 as a jukebox server for all my DVDs, which I've ripped to VIDEOTS folders on a file server. Thing is, I can't fit them all on one hard disk so the library is randomly distributed across multiple drives and top-level folders.
I would want the GUI to present me with one long list of DVD folders to choose from. The only way I can think of to do this is to set up a top-level folder that contains folder shortcuts to all the DVD folders in the library. But, will the GUI follow the shortcut or just display a.lnk folder on the nav screens? Hopefully this is a quick yes/no answer - anyone tried this / know if it works? If not, I'd like to add it to the wish list Obviously, a better solution would be support for amalgamating many target folders into a single logical library that's configured on the media player.that would be a good addition to the wish list too, I reckon.
Thanks, Simon. Morgan, we have all went through this before, a promising interest from al tec. Nothing is gonna happen, they are not gonna help us now if they didn't care before. I also find it highly unlikely that the president of al tech was unaware of the numerous american complaints from mg-35 buyers. If you are the president of a company, and you are trying to market your product into the usa, I am pretty sure you would pay attention too the user feedback to understand how well your product is being recieved, and what to do to help it be succesful. Honestly in my opinion, I am not gonna fall for your false expectations that al tech will help us out now. So i will be straight to the point, release a complete GPL!, we obviously don't need any help from you guys as we have gotten this far already (and it has taken us to do this, before al tech even cares enough to try and adress our complaints) why is that?
Scared we might find something illegal in your source? Well i for one will not be scared to tell you that after we get the proper GPL from you guys, you can go tell Mr. Kim to go. himself! Originally Posted by J. I'm curious, how did your MG-35 get bricked?
Did an upgrade fail? If so, was it an 'official' firmware release upgrade that failed to complete?, or one of the 'unofficial' upgrade releases from this group? This is what happend, i was watching foto's (over the network) on the mg-35. Afther that, i want to go to a other map,the the MG-35 freeze at the 'browser screen. The device stops working on the remote control, even for the power button.
Then i try to turn it off by pushing the power button on the device, no go. Then i power donw the mg-35 by disconnecting the power connector, the device turned off. Afterwards i put the power cord back to the mg-35, and pushed the power button on the device.
The first seconds was looks like a normal boot, but the last step was not ok. The blue led keeps flasings al the time and there is no welcome screen at the tv. Then i look the internet and this forum what could be wrong with my device.
So i thought the firmware is on a stange way lost. A last, it was a official firmware but i have as brand 'Freecom' with a 'Mediagate' firmware in it. Originally Posted by gans this is what happend, i was watching foto's (over the network) on the mg-35. Afther that, i want to go to a other map,the the MG-35 freeze at the 'browser screen.
The device stops working on the remote control, even for the power button. Then i try to turn it off by pushing the power button on the device, no go.
First report I've seen of an MG-35 being bricked during normal use rather than during firmware upgrade. They only routine flash writing is for the NV data, and this also does a very, very occasional erase of the config area. Any unexpected flash access duing the write/erase could cause things to fail. UClinux makes things easier in this regard but it is still a concern particularly as we add more 'background' things such as telnet, ftp and web. The flash write/erase should really be in a driver rather than a userland process. Originally Posted by meme1labs Let me ask what would be the perfect relationship within the bounds of all things legal, helpful, ethical and not to time consuming on ALTech's part?
What would you like to see the MG-35 do? Surf the web? Stream from the web? And then the next one coming? Hell go for it - might as well ask - toss your ideas in.
Be as aggressive here as on the working use of the code, etc. Many thanks just for asking the question.
My answer is pretty easy - 1) Honour GPL obligations in FULL. This involves a release of all code that's covered by the GPL for the 1.4.4 and 1.4.5 and all subsequent firmware. Note that.many. parts of the firmware are covered by the GPL - I keep meaning to do a full audit, but Al Tek.really.
should know this already. The code released should exactly match the binaries supplied. 2) Improve the codecs.
I think we can do the rest ourselves when the GPL release is made. But there are many problems when playing pretty ordinary divx/xvid/mpeg2 files that should work just fine. Jerky playback despite good bandwidth, bad lip sync, and problems that crop up if you pause playback and restart (but which are fixed if you rewind and play again) These are all software issues and using up-to-date code from Sigma should help greatly. Also, the MG-350 rocks - wifi's nice, but the extra ram makes GUI 3x prettier - time search is 'I swear' instant - thats 8621 - and there's a 8622L thats right out there around the corner.
There is no way I'm going to spend my money on an MG-350 until Al Tek show that they are prepared to get their existing products up-to-scratch. If you buy a car that has many faults that the manufacturer/dealer fail to address, and the manufacturer won't even supply a workshop manual. Would you buy that make of car again? Oh, and the graphics on the MG-35 are now 3x as good as with the stock firmware without using any extra RAM. Originally Posted by gadgetmind '304 not modified' as an error when using wget. Other odd issues with other clients.
Probably something cache related. I suspect it's the date that mathopd is reading from the cramFS is wierd (looks odd when you do an ls-l) mathopd sets the request date to zero if it wants to ensure it always gets new content. But files in a cramFS also have a time of zero, and the check is. Originally Posted by EmuMannen Today we haven't even a proper shell so it is a stretch. To me any scripting support in MG-35 would be an improvement. News regards scripting.
Rob Landley is now the BusyBox maintainter and he's working towards version 1.3 He hates the current shell collection and it looking at replacing lash with something that can config that small but also be extended to be a shell that is pleasant to use from the command line, has terminal/job control, and can also be used for complex scripts. He's keen that it works on uClinux from scratch and I've volunteered to test it for him. I reckon it'll be 6-8 weeks before we have something that can handle what our current lash/hush combination can do, and after that life will just get better. Originally Posted by EmuMannen I probably need some more time to reshuffle the colors in the gfx-pack. It doesent look good and I have to figure out a way to tackle the dialogs in a better way. I might not be able to do all the changes I want to before I get back from Paris (on friday).
That's fine - I can get stuck in at the weekend. Be good to think that 1.4.4.4-pre2 could be the one that we use as final!
But 1.4.4.5 is solid and working well. But it still needs someone with web skills to give us a web GUI even though all we can do for now is screen dumps and maybe set the NAS server name. Originally Posted by gadgetmind Interesting. First report I've seen of an MG-35 being bricked during normal use rather than during firmware upgrade.
They only routine flash writing is for the NV data, and this also does a very, very occasional erase of the config area. Any unexpected flash access duing the write/erase could cause things to fail. UClinux makes things easier in this regard but it is still a concern particularly as we add more 'background' things such as telnet, ftp and web. The flash write/erase should really be in a driver rather than a userland process. Ian Nope, my Freecom deviced killed itself the exact same way (while watching fotos). I've returned it to Freecom and they replaced the mainboard (had 2 wait almost 2 months though ).
Originally Posted by bb!rd Nope, my Freecom deviced killed itself the exact same way (while watching fotos). I've returned it to Freecom and they replaced the mainboard (had 2 wait almost 2 months though ) Hmmm, does the MG-35 'remember' anything about the photo you were last viewing? I'll have to do some before/after config dumping, unless someone else wants to try using mgnv, which is in 1.4.4.4 and 1.4.4.5 But in the stock firmware, I'm not sure what other flash access could be happening at the same time. I'm starting to worry more and more about the flash being accessed via telnet, ftp or http while dvdplayer.bin is changing the NV data. Originally Posted by gadgetmind Hmmm, does the MG-35 'remember' anything about the photo you were last viewing? I'll have to do some before/after config dumping, unless someone else wants to try using mgnv, which is in 1.4.4.4 and 1.4.4.5 But in the stock firmware, I'm not sure what other flash access could be happening at the same time. I'm starting to worry more and more about the flash being accessed via telnet, ftp or http while dvdplayer.bin is changing the NV data.
Ian can i with this info 'normaly' flash a new firmware in my device by using a serial cable connected to de MG-35? Or is my 'mainbaord' broken??
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